Falling behind in technology right away doesn't really work. You need some technology advances to get access to buildings that are essential for your economy and to idea groups I tend to start "lagging" in technology when I have two idea groups activated. That way you can spend your monarch points in a meaningful way instead of advancing technology Watch out how fast you grow your empire.
The amount of power you can spend per month and thus the totalduration of the transition depends on the total base tax value of your nation. This cuts down the rebelliousness of your provinces significantly I have tried both strategies and have found so far that the process is not worth it for Ottomans and Russia.
It's quite possible that westernizing is a good iea for Asian or African nations though. Improve this answer. Richard ten Brink Richard ten Brink 1, 7 7 silver badges 11 11 bronze badges. This is a very, very large question, and I doubt there is a short answer to it. During Westernization: You will need to plan ahead, as, strategically, you will be unable to participate in global politics much for more than 10 years, provided that you can pay monarch points quickly enough.
Before Westernization: This requires even more farsight. I'm afraid that, while this may be helpful for beginners, it doesn't really answer your question, as these are just simple and basic ideas you doubtlessly already know.
Sign up or log in Sign up using Google. Sign up using Facebook. Sign up using Email and Password. Post as a guest Name. Email Required, but never shown. The lowest tech groups will need to first westernize to the Muslim tech group, then again to the Oriental tech group, then finally to the Western tech group. This means that we suffer no penalty on our monthly investments into research. We also get neighbor bonuses to tech investments if other western nations are ahead of us in technology.
Basically every western nation is far ahead of us, so we are getting a huge bonus monthly investment in all of our technologies. A talented artist is hired to aid with restoring stability. Even with all of our investment going into stability for now, we are gaining new ranks of technology at a rapid rate from the neighbor bonuses. Austria declares war on us, presumably to seize Croatia. We've caught up slightly in tech after westernizing, but not enough to match Austria's more modern unit types yet.
As the Holy Roman Emperor, Austria has built up a huge army that we can't match in numbers unless we bring in several of our rebel hunting armies from the east. We try to wear them down with attrition. More Austrian armies keep coming through and we leave a trail of ashes for them to follow. The Austrians ignore all of obstacles we've put in front of them by just assaulting the provinces and pushing on, meeting us in battle at Zeta where we barely squeeze out a victory with vastly superior numbers.
Attempting to face them with equivalent numbers simply doesn't work, however. The Polish army isn't quite as powerful as the Austrians and we're able to make demands on them to end hostilities. We demand the provinces of Bessarabia and Budjak, which we'll be able to release as the state of Moldavia once the war is over.
Due to Morocco and Granada's attacks on Austria's overseas minor allies, we are able to get out of this terrible war with a white peace. Moldavia is released as a vassal state to insulate our northern borders. During westernization, several events can appear where you can either choose a really terrible option, or resist western influences.
Giving in to more conservative ideals will prevent any further bad events like this from popping up for 10 years, but while you have the Resisting Influences tag, you'll be unable to go through military modernization. We can't go through modernization anyway, since our ruler doesn't meed the prerequisite administrative skill. With that in mind, it's fine for us to resist influences. You just raised your development and gained taxes, base production, and extra manpower.
You could just wait for the institution to spread to you though and used those monarch points for something else. Yuna View Profile View Posts. Bring back the old ways!
One upside of the institution mechanic as opposed to westernization is that you actually get something from spending those monarch points. With westernization, you would just be spending a ridiculous amount of Mana and it wouldn't even pay back until way later, meanwhile you are probably falling behind in tech. At least with institutions, you actually get something from investing all of those points, which is a better province.
With the constant amount of ways to Development reduction, it's possible to get an Instituition to spawn for like mana total. Last edited by Talamare ; 8 Oct, pm. Zafarnama View Profile View Posts. I prefer institutions, it closer reflects the reality of technological progress than the old method did. It's not enough for a nation's ruler to demand that it "Westernises" at a whim, there has to be material conditions to facilitate it, it didn't make sense in EU3 that some far flung nation could just "Westernise" without any contact with Europe just because the player is aware that Europe exists.
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